John Robinson has set up a third strand centered around how to create a more civil, more inviting blogging atmosphere.
Unlike the first strand and the second strand on this topic, John's asking individuals who have already commented to stay on the sidelines and NOT to add any more comments.
John probably realizes that some of us feel tortured by such a bizarre request.
It's an experiment of sorts, one suggested by Mark Binker.
Mark: "I don't know if that would create a safe enough space for others to chime in, but it's a thought."
A thought worth considering.
I don't know if this experimental invitation will bring in new voices by itself.
But the idea that more new voices might enter the conversation if some of the old voices would occasionally keep quiet is worth considering.
The dynamics in cyberspace are different than the ones in which people come face to face, such as in a meeting or in a classroom.
But I'm sure most of us have been in meetings and classrooms in which the same core group of individuals do all or most of the talking.
The primary talkers usually think that the listeners just prefer to listen and don't have anything to say.
That's probably true sometimes.
But what talkers don't realize sometimes is that more of the listeners might jump in if ever given real opportunity.
The talkers tend to think that that such opportunities are abundant.
What they sometimes fail to realize is that they and the other dominant talkers are "stealing" every opening into the conversation, leaving no meaningfuly "wait-time" for others to join in.
The space that is filled with your voice takes away from the opportunity to hear someone else's voice.
In a meeting or classroom, a good leader tries to make sure everyone is given opportunities to speak and that the environment is comfortable enough for everyone.
Some people have a lot to say, arguably more than others.
Some of those people have a seemingly infinite supply of great ideas to share.
But it's arrogant for anyone to think that he has a monopoly on those great ideas.
It's also arrogant to assume that the voices that never speak up have nothing to say.
It's healthy for talkers to step back and give room for others to enter the conversation.
Paideia seminars, in which a common text is explored and discussed, offer the opportunity for people to learn better communication skills.
Ideally, seminars have participants seated in a circle.
Everyone is invited to jump into the conversation at any time.
Usually a facilitator gets things started by asking an opening question that everyone answers by going around the entire circle.
After going full-circle, the rest of the dialogue depends on individuals jumping in, preferably without any hand raising.
The facilitator's job is to make sure everyone behaves well and that new questions are asked when the conversation otherwise stops.
Since hand-raising isn't permitted, the facilitator shouldn't have to call on anyone.
There's a fine line between encouraging absolutely open dialogue and preventing ugly communication.
Some people will shut down, sometimes forever, if they're given reason to fear how others will respond.
One interesting strategy with paideia circles is to assign an inner circle and an outer circle.
Individuals in the inner circle are the out-loud participants, the ones who can express themselves freely.
Individuals in the outer circle are the full-time listeners, the ones who have to keep their thoughts entirely to themselves.
The "outsiders" are often instructed to take notes about what the "insiders" are saying.
The dynamics for paideia seminars do not translate perfectly into the world of blogging.
But it's worth thinking deeply about how we each participate in blogging and how our participation influences and affects others.
Monday, August 13, 2007
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Hardy, for the love of God I wish you'd use paragraphs of more than a single sentence. Your ideas are interesting, but it is very difficult to follow along with your preferred formatting.
In face-to-face conversations, contributions are limited by, and can be monopolized because of, the limits of time. There are no such limits on blog comments -- nobody has to wait for someone else to finish before they can add to the conversation. So the notion that some aren't commenting because others are doing so actively doesn't make sense to me.
Roch,
Sorry about the paragraphing approach.
I've actually used that approach as a way of trying to make it easier to read. I might try searching for an in-between balance.
Face-to-face conversations and blog conversations are very different, I agree. But when the blog comments seem to be between only a few individuals who go back and forth, others might be less inclined to join in, particularly if the comments have ugly tones to them.
On the other side, there are posts and blogs where frequent commenters don't leave comments, and newcomers don't often show up there either. So the absence of voices doesn't always mean that other voices will fill that void.
With meetings and classes, people are usually there at the same time and their purpose for being there is defined. When people visit blogs, they do so on their own time, and they're free to bounce away as quickly as they please. There's no obligation to read or to respond; in meetings and classrooms, you're supposed to be engaged in some way or another, and even if you choose not to participate, you can't usually just leave. With blogs, there's nothing keeping you there except free will.
I wasn't trying to be absolute in making comparisons. But when I read what Mark had suggested John consider doing, I tried to think of similar dynamics that I've seen in play. You're right to point out the differences.
Sincerely,
Hardy
S. Purple, or should it be Mr. Purple? At any rate I am truly grateful to Roch for commenting on your blog formatting. It is extremely difficult to follow. I see absolutely nothing wrong with your comment formatting so why look for something else. There is an old adage: Don’t fix it if it ain’t broke. Seymour Purple One was ‘loverly’ so why not stick with it? BB
( Dam but I hate it when I spout off and tell other people how to do things the “right” way. Take a good look at an old school marm and see that you don’t become one! That is the reason I am leaving this comment rather than deleting it at my end; it is a lesson in retired school teacher's do's and don'ts. BB)
Brenda,
If it makes it better, the advice will be well worth it. Without feedback, you can move forward rather blindly. Breaking things up into small chunks has definitely been intentional, but it sounds like I've been overdoing it and that it's accomplished the opposite of what I've intended. Instead of making it easier to read, it's made for more painful reading.
Sorry.
I'll work on it.
Sincerely,
Hardy
"I've actually used that approach as a way of trying to make it easier to read. I might try searching for an in-between balance."
Would putting every word on a line of its own make it easier still?
Paragraphs provide a visual clue to the reader of chunks of thought. A paragraph break indicates that the writer is shifting gears, moving on to the next thought. To make a paragraph break when you are still continuing to write about the same thing as the previous sentance is confusing.
The problem is compounded because you often write lengthy posts. The constant scrolling to read a vertical three feet of text is bothersome.
I'll shut up now, because I do enjoy the thoughts you convey and I don't want you to think I'm being mean.
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